Can I Apply One Hard Wax Oil Brand Over Another?

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Introduction

A Traditional Hard Wax Oil is the perfect way to finish off your oak flooring. Offering extreme durability and resistance, these oils are also micro-porous and water repellent. As a natural oil and wax mix, hard wax oils are safe for humans, animals and plants. As standard these oils can give either a natural satin or a natural matt fish, which is beloved by many.

As you may have already seen from our guide to oak floor finishes, there are a number of different brands available many of which we stock, including Osmo Polyx-Oil, Blanchon Hard Waxoil and Fiddes Hard Wax Oil.

Although all of these are Hard Wax Oils, the different formulas used mean that they will of course produce a slightly different final finish.

As a supplier, we are asked various questions in relation to their application, resistance and much more.

One question that has recently been asked more and more in one form or another is “can I apply hard wax oil A over hard wax oil B?”.

Although we always recommend that you stick with the same oil brand when re-coating, we have had customers who have simply forgotten which oil they used 5 or 6 years ago and are therefore left with no other choice.

We have also had customers who many years ago coated up their flooring with one particular oil, but have since discovered another option which they much prefer.

This short guide will take you through a couple of tests we undertook recently.

( To download a printable pdf version of this guide, click here)

Mixing After One Coat

For the first part of our test we took one of our unfinished 240mm Character Grade Engineered Oak floorboards and split it into three individual sections.

We chose to use a satin finish from each of three manufacturers as this would be likely highlight the biggest problems.

We applied a thin coating of hard wax oil to each section and then left to dry in warm, dry, well ventilated conditions as per the manufacturers instructions.

Section 1

Fiddes Hard Wax Oil - Clear Satin

Section 2

Blanchon Hard Waxoil - Natural Satin

Section 3

Osmo Polyx Oil - Satin-matt.

 

After leaving the first coat to fully dry, the next step was to combine the oils.

Section

First Coat

Second Coat

1 Fiddes Hard Wax Oil Blanchon Hard Waxoil
2 Blanchon Hard Waxoil Osmo Polyx-Oil
3 Osmo Polyx-Oil Fiddes Hard Wax Oil

 

Hard Wax Oil One Coat Mix

Results

There seemed to be no discernible difference.

In terms of colour alone, using two different brands seemed to have no negative impact upon each other.

Looking over the boards it would be difficult to know that two different brands had been used.

 

Mixing After Two Coats

To ensure that the results of the first test were not a fluke or due to only one coat being applied, we decided to carry out a more extreme test.

Once again, we used one of our standard unfinished oak boards, this time in 140mm width, again split into a number of sections.

This time we applied two base coats of one brand of oil and then added a coat of another brand and then compared this to 3 coats of the same brand.

Section

First Coat

Second Coat

Third Coat

1 Fiddes Hard Wax Oil Fiddes Hard Wax Oil Fiddes Hard Wax Oil
2 Fiddes Hard Wax Oil Fiddes Hard Wax Oil Osmo Polyx-Oil
3 Blanchon Hard Waxoil Blanchon Hard Waxoil Blanchon Hard Waxoil
4 Blanchon Hard Waxoil Blanchon Hard Waxoil Fiddes Hard Wax Oil
5 Osmo Polyx-Oil Osmo Polyx-Oil Osmo Polyx-Oil
6 Osmo Polyx-Oil Osmo Polyx-Oil Blanchon Hard Waxoil

Hard Wax Oil Combinations

Results

There were no reactions between coats of different brands of oil but the final finished look is determined by the last coat applied.

In other words, if you particularly like the slightly "hard" look of Fiddes, you can achieve this by applying one coat over any of the other brands.

Conclusion

We have proven that with these three brands, you can apply any one over any of the others with no detrimental effects, however we would still recommend that you use just one brand if you want to be absolutely certain of getting the finish you want.

16 Comments

Have just finished putting two coats of Osmo satin hardwax oil on our solid oak floorboards. Very easy to apply using Osmo 220mm brush, however not impressed with how many bristles came out of it! Didnt notice some until oil dried, so spent ages on hands and knees picking them out, brush is very expensive and I would have expected it to be better quality. The floor does look gorgeous though!

Bob Burton October 24, 2014 at 8:03pm

I have part of a 0.75 L tin of Osmo Hard Wax Oil which was originally bought for my hardwood kitchen worktops several years ago. It is a really good finish, but obviously the 0.75L tin is lasting for ages as I only need to re-oil them every 2 or 3 years and it doesn't take much to re apply to 2 or 3 squares metres of work top.

I also have oiled oak flooring, bought prefinished, and now in need of re doing. I am using the left over Osmo HWO but as the room is a) large and b) inhabited I can only apply the oil to a small area at a time. It is taking AGES to dry ! Could it be because it has thickened over the years? Can I thin it a bit with some white spirit?

Had I better throw it away? i have ordered another tin of HWO, but being frugal I am loathe to throw the original stuff away especially at £22 a tin.

Jay Milla November 16, 2014 at 12:29pm

Hi Jay,

It is important to note what your floor was originally finished with. The Osmo, and indeed all of the hard wax oils, are designed to be applied onto unfinished timber which has not been treated with other products.

The tin of course needs to be well stirred, and the shelf life would need to be checked. Normally Osmo recommend around 5 years with a tightly sealed tin. The drying time will also be affected by climatic conditions and how much you have applied.\

Hope this helps.

Peak Oak November 17, 2014 at 10:51am

Hi - We have just had an oak floor fitted and used Osmo Polyx-oil (clear matt) as a finish. Two coats have been applied and I don't like the colour - it is slightly orange and I wanted a more natural/light brown oak look. Is this a sanding job or is there something I can put on the top to make it look less orange??

Thanks
Sarah

Sarah J November 18, 2014 at 1:14pm

Hi Sarah,

Generally this would be a sanding job. For the Osmo Colour stains, the colours are applied first and the Clear afterwards. It may be worth you taking a look at our <a href="[link awaiting verification]; title="Essential Guide To Oak Floor Finishes" rel="nofollow"></a> which shows some of the colours Blanchon have available.

Peak Oak November 24, 2014 at 1:35pm

Hi there

First just wanna say OSMO it's grate, used it few times with grate result.
My question is, just finish 80 S/m of engeneered floor and my customer doesn't like the mat finish of the floor.
Ca I use OSMO satin on the new floor?
And do I need to sand the floor before applying OSMO satin?

Thank you
Kind regards Aurel

Aurel Rosca April 10, 2016 at 9:23pm

When you say that, "like the slightly "hard" look of Fiddes, you can achieve this by applying one coat over any of the other brands."
Does this mean that Fiddes has a higher level of solvent that causes it to "set up" differently? Maybe leave less of a oil/wax film?
I'm wondering if it adheres to the under layer by somewhat "dissolving" into it?
(You can tell I'm not a chemist!)

JRW May 16, 2016 at 3:03am

Hi Aurel,

The achieve a higher gloss level, Osmo themselves recommend applying the Osmo Liquid Wax Cleaner thinly and polish when dry.

Hope this helps

Peak Oak June 10, 2016 at 5:19pm

I've applied Original Briwax rustic pine onto a pine table top that I'd sanded and am worried about its durability. Would I be able to apply an osmo product over the top without a need for sanding which would give it more durability and protection against food spills, cup marks etc. what product would you recommend for this, even if a light sanding is required please.

Mel November 13, 2016 at 10:42am

Hi Mel,

With any of these products, they are designed to be applied onto unfinished bare timber, so they are not normally recommended to be applied over the top of other finishes. In terms of which would provide the most protection, we have created a guide which tested out just that. In this guide we applied a range of different sauces and stains to a variety of finishes to test out how hardwearing they are. This particular guide can be seen via the following link:

http://www.peakoak.co.uk/guides/best-oak-floor-finishes-the-definitive-test/#testing

Hope this helps to answer your question.

Peak Oak November 14, 2016 at 12:04pm

I have stripped our lounge oak floor with a Lagler sander. I then put on a thin coat of Osmo Polyx Oil, clear satin. It has now dried, and at one end of the room the wood is orangy and looks darker around the outside of the planks of oak, than in the middle of each plank. The oak over the whole room is a much darker colour than the stripped wood, which I did not expect as the oil was 'clear'. Any thoughts on why this has happened and if there is anything I can do before applying a second coat. Many thanks.

Brian Taylor November 14, 2016 at 8:10pm

Hi Brian,

Without seeing the floor and knowing what type of wood you have applied, it is a bit difficult to judge what the best action is to take.

In terms of colour, all of the hard wax oil "clear" finishes are designed to enhance the colour of the timber - often creating a warm, honey golden colour.

If you require a finish which does not significantly change the colour of the wood, there are products available - such as the Blanchon Original Wood Environment.

Hope this helps

Peak Oak November 18, 2016 at 4:59pm

I have used Osmo Hardwax on my sanded floorboards, and don't like the colour, it has gone very orange. I would like to stain them a dark brown, but is there anything I can use that will just go on top, as I can't bare to re-sand them! I used an Osmo dark stain on some other unwaxed boards and it looked good, and have tried putting the stain on top of the hardwax but it doesn't soak in at all and doesn't look good. Any advise on what might work? Thanks

Clare Stone November 14, 2017 at 2:39pm

Hi Clare,

I'm afraid with the Osmo stains, they do need to be applied to the unfinished floor prior to applying the top coat of the clear hard wax oil. To use the stain, the flooring will need to be sanded back and recoated. With regards to applying over the top of the clear hard wax oil, as most finishes are recommended for applying to unfinished timber - it is difficult to know the expected results/performance.

Peak Oak November 16, 2017 at 9:22am

I've used Osmo oil on my floors and just wondering if I can use a wax or beeswax polish on them to buff up and give more of a shine

Leanne November 26, 2017 at 11:11am

Hi Leanne,

How long has the flooring been coated for? If the finish has "dulled" over time, the Osmo Liquid Wax Cleaner will help to rejuvenate and clean the finish, which should give the finish more a shine.

http://www.peakoak.co.uk/wood-care/cleaning-maintenance/osmo-liquid-wax-cleaner/

Peak Oak November 29, 2017 at 9:05am

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